your thoughts on Jailbreak music / hldj clips

[JJK]

Before a rule is set (and before i voice my oppinion), id like to hear everyones thoughts on playing music or sound clips

 

things to consider

 

 

pros

cons

t, ct, or lead mic priority

should warday / freeday / LR be different?

allow certain hg members or gang members to use hldj?

what about spamming off and on?

death charging sounds? (such victory screeeech! or freeeedoommmmmmmm sounds)

should we vote on clips like we do for !fire?

maybe cost rep to use hldj for x rounds?

maybe only lead can say off? maybe only admins?

ban clips all together and allow music?

 

(dont copy paste answer these, i want you to say how you feel)

 

thanks for the input

[MasterBaiter]

I think that it is a fun thing to have can be abused. Some sound clips need to be used a bit less used and spaming the same one should resolt in a mute. Lr is okay to use it but if someone dosen't like it say off. Wardays i like some off the songs because the are cool to listen to when fighting. The only thing is when a dead admin sees someone wants it off they should tell the person playing to turn it off.

[RageQuit]

I definitely think that HLDJ should be restricted based on rank/admin power, probably member+ for HG rank.

 

I don't know how hard it would be to code or even if it would be possible, but when it comes to warday/general music, there should be some sort of system that detects when an HLDJ clip starts. When it does, it mutes all other HLDJ sources. Immediately after, a dialog box that says "On/Off?" should come up and allow for everyone to vote whether they want the HLDJ clip to continue. Mute the player for the round if there are enough votes to turn off the song. Then all HLDJ is unmuted (except for that last person's) until someone else plays an HLDJ clip, and repeat the same process. I guess it's somewhat like when someone takes lead: people vote by using fire as to whether they want a lead to continue to be in position. I also don't know if it's possible, but maybe give the option for players to mute all HLDJ for the round (remove the "off" option for people who do this).

 

When it comes to regular days, maybe have it so lead has the ability to toggle whether users other than him/herself can use HLDJ (default is off).

 

I personally use clips sparingly at this point, but they're mainly to enhance a game (like trivia: "Where does this sound clip come from?", etc.). Since it's lead's discretion as to whether he wants other music/clips playing, lead should probably have some sort of control over whether it can function while in power.

 

I'll probably add more to this later.

[youthedog]

ban everything but music and make it cost rep to play along with having players gain a reputation (+1'd or -1'd as DJ) idk

[Adam]

the rules on hldj should be. this is my opinion take it as you wish.

1. allowed to play on opinionated days if lead allows it

2. whoever the lead designates as the music person can play music on wardays

3. when somebody obtains lr.

4. no other times should hldj be played without the consent of the lead ct

5. you can not say off like a fa**** just because you dont want to listen to a song for 45 seconds.

[jajolt]

I think it should be built in as a command on the server, first person to type/ bind !hldj gets to either pick a song from a library or use their own hldj. Would be much more regulated in a sense.

[LazaHorse]

Jailbreak can be played competently and comically without the use of ANY HLDJ.

 

If people try harder to "be funny", they won't have to rely on HLDJ to make the server fun for people. Virality and Memes belong on 4chan, reddit, 9gag, and all the other stupid sites children like to expose themselves to. Jailbreak can be played perfectly fine on its own without the use and abuse of HLDJ for stupid reasons.

 

So then we look at the games that "need" HLDJ to be played.

 

4 Corners/Musical Chairs: the game sucks. Be honest... it sucks. Until you have Mike is Fresh on playing his saxophone over his mic, it sucks.

Warday/300/etc: You don't need it. You... do not... need... it.

Music Trivia/Relevant games: Can be easily substituted.

 

If I missed one, I missed on. Long story short, I and I think many others have lessened or ceased altogether our activity in the server due in LARGE part to how pervasive HLDJ has become. Get rid of it... the game gets better.

[-O-P-rime]

If i get priority i will dj on jb with great success.

 

But in seriousness, it gets played over and over again and its really annoying. especially little clips that keep getting played. it disrupts gameplay and it makes people miss the order.

 

the whole thing is a con.

[Poohunter]

HLDJ makes the game fun. The only con is spam, but seriously? I don't think we need to ban HLDJ for 3 seconds of spam which and admin can handle anyway.

[Dolan]

Some clips are judt fucking annoying... All clips are fucking annoying.

 

In my opinion HLDJ should be only used for music AND NOTHING ELSE.

 

Also there should be a voting system that depends in the amount of players in T or CT and f.e. Theres 50 dudes in the server so some ppl are saying off so the admin types !voteoff and if 7/8 ppl vote then ir says like in the corner (same place as when someone gets t-listed) and the player turns off the music. In that way trolls wont troll.

 

Thats my opinion.

[motive]

Get rid of it all together. Sound clips are repetitive and old and you don't need to listen to your music over css.

[LazaHorse]

Get rid of it all together. Sound clips are repetitive and old and you don't need to listen to your music over css.

 

THE MOTIVE HAS SPOKEN! Now ban motive.

[Nevodka]

This is one of those things where the regulation should be minimal to maintain the fun atmosphere in the server. Many of you that play every day get tired of a few bad apples that will incessantly spam, as do I get annoyed, but you have to look at this from the perspective of a new player. One of the biggest reasons I continued to play on the server was that the music and sound clips did add some level of craziness and fun to it.

 

That being said, my opinion on it would be to make a rule stating keep the spam to a minimum, and you should never be playing clips over the lead speaking. People love to play them in between orders, which sometimes will overlap with the lead trying to begin a new order or there are even players that will play the same clip every single time the orders are given, which is why I think a "minimum spam" rule would work here for admins to tell this player to stop. It shouldn't be disallowed because of a few dumb players, as it is a really funny factor to the game hearing "dinner's gonna be cold tonight, asshole" as you're going the bottom of cell stairs.

 

As far as the "off" system goes, keep the rule to "if someone tells you to turn your music off, you turn it off" but also add a rule stating not to abuse this system, so admins have some leeway to deal with players that are just telling everyone to turn music off. Or better yet, if you want it more civilized consider a plugin similar to the !fire system that will display a "Turn your music off please" message (or just making it similar to votemute, although that has room for abuse especially in jb). A plugin with a similar function to !fire would be the best way to go about getting an actual majority, without something such as that I say keep the "off" rule at one player because it is too uncoordinated if you set a required number and you're sitting there counting how many people, if you get the gist.

 

That's just my opinion about it at least, make sure you aren't restricting the players fun more than it must be.

[jajolt]

Paid hldj permissions.

 

Gives HG money and reduces spam.

[Cookie]

no sound clips should be allowed, music as it is now.

[bazzoka]

Hldj should never had existed. period

[Silly]

personally, i would say Wardays, pirate days, etc. (fundays) because people just spam it, hell i dont even know how many times i mute @all in one round because its not just 1 person, its always like 4 at once spamming the same thing over and over again

[(Headband)(EG)]

nope. We should just !nospam 1 everyone

[Baotiv The Mad]

Everyone is more ASS RAVAGED than me, and are raging because Epic Sax Guy interrupted their dumb opinionated days

[Jadis]

I think it's fine the way it is now. Mute should be used often and used liberally.

 

I also would like to stress how important HLDJ is to some people as far as FUN goes.

 

If HLDJ is banned, IMO jailbreak will no longer be nearly as fun. Let's face it. 50% of days are "go jump to vip shingles then do last reaction." or "lets do pokemon." This is ESPECIALLY TRUE during the mid-day when only 20-30 people are on. HLDJ is what keeps it entertaining in my mind. Let me put it this way. 90% of the time that I laugh while playing jailbreak is because someone played just the right clip at just the right moment. HLDJ is like a little jailbreak sub-community in, and of, itself. One person finds a funny clip and makes everyone laugh, then others copy them until it gets boring and stale. People yell to stop doing the clip because they've heard it so much, then the cycle repeats upon finding some new clip. It's fun. It really is.

 

I am 100% for muting people spamming/being annoying/being unfunny/bazokka (jk bruh)

 

It seems I am the minority in this thread. This makes me sad. HLDJ is one of the major reasons I began playing on this server as it offered something fresh, fun, and new compared with other jailbreak communities.

Edited October 12, 2012 by Jadis

[Magic]

Lets allow it. I really enjoy some of the clips that are played and it just makes me have a laugh every now and then. If they are constantly spamming clips like "Oh my god its so juicy" then admins will just mute them or use the !nospam command. For wardays yes, but use it respectfully.

[LazaHorse]

I think it's fine the way it is now. Mute should be used often and used liberally.

 

I am 100% for muting people spamming/being annoying/being unfunny/bazokka (jk bruh)

 

A command put into the game as a policing mechanic should be used liberally? Wouldn't it be better if the people that it was being used on would just not act in such a way as to require its use? Saying mute should be used liberally so that we can keep HLDJ is like saying we need more policemen so that people can keep drinking and driving without it affecting the rest of us too much. Rather than buying a box of 100 industrial sized bandages, why don't we just stop letting Jimmy play with his older friends in the "bad part of town?"

 

Nip it in the bud. We wouldn't need to use mute so often and get so many people complaining about mute/kick/ban abuse over HLDJ if HLDJ wasn't available in the first place.

[Jadis]

I don't believe prohibition worked out that great for anyone.

 

My point still stands about it being fun for a lot of people. Honestly, when I play jailbreak, sometimes are worse than others, sure, but someone needs to be muted like once per hour, IF THAT. I just played for abour 3 hours, and I didn't see 1 mute. I hope it isn't too much trouble for admins for the uniqueness HLDJ brings to HG jailbreak.

 

edit: I definitely acknowledge that sometimes spammers gonna spam. They should be kicked / perm muted or something.

 

Also, who is complaining about mute abuse? I searched the abuse forum for "mute" and "muted" and found about 1 result every 2 weeks. That really isn't enough to justify completely banning HLDJ, but this is just my opinion and I am certainly not in charge of things

[Factions]

Keep it in only takes 1 command to stop it all soon we will stop ts from talking

[Jadis]

This is one of those things where the regulation should be minimal to maintain the fun atmosphere in the server. Many of you that play every day get tired of a few bad apples that will incessantly spam, as do I get annoyed, but you have to look at this from the perspective of a new player. One of the biggest reasons I continued to play on the server was that the music and sound clips did add some level of craziness and fun to it.

 

That being said, my opinion on it would be to make a rule stating keep the spam to a minimum, and you should never be playing clips over the lead speaking. People love to play them in between orders, which sometimes will overlap with the lead trying to begin a new order or there are even players that will play the same clip every single time the orders are given, which is why I think a "minimum spam" rule would work here for admins to tell this player to stop. It shouldn't be disallowed because of a few dumb players, as it is a really funny factor to the game hearing "dinner's gonna be cold tonight, asshole" as you're going the bottom of cell stairs.

 

As far as the "off" system goes, keep the rule to "if someone tells you to turn your music off, you turn it off" but also add a rule stating not to abuse this system, so admins have some leeway to deal with players that are just telling everyone to turn music off. Or better yet, if you want it more civilized consider a plugin similar to the !fire system that will display a "Turn your music off please" message (or just making it similar to votemute, although that has room for abuse especially in jb). A plugin with a similar function to !fire would be the best way to go about getting an actual majority, without something such as that I say keep the "off" rule at one player because it is too uncoordinated if you set a required number and you're sitting there counting how many people, if you get the gist.

 

That's just my opinion about it at least, make sure you aren't restricting the players fun more than it must be.

 

I just wanted to say I 100% agree with Nevodka. Maybe an option such as !votemute <playername> and it requires 2-3 votes, and can only be performed on T's? But then this may ruin Isengard days and the like. So that is something else to consider.