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devnull

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Sirius Elite Member V

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I did state all T's not in VIP to run to top of cell stairs. They should of still had their face on cell doors and frozen. And isn't not following the orders rebelling? Thus future orders not apply to them anyways and death bestow them!

 

If the next order is that everyone but VIP do something and VIP does it, then the folks in VIP who disobeyed that new order should all die a very painful death.

 

As I understand common sense... That's retarded.

 

Thanks for weighing in on your expertness on retardation. Peace be with you.

 

Sirius

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enigma# Omniscient Member

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Let's parse your order in the perspective of Ts:

 

1. You give an order

2. Ts have two possible states (they either do or do not do your order) respectively: FollowingOrder(Terrorist) ∧ ¬FollowingOrder(Terrorist)

3. If they do not follow your order, (Either by rebelling or by not listening correctly for instance), they are in the state of "¬FollowingOrder(Terrorist)"

4. You can then kill those in the state "¬FollowingOrder(Terrorist)".

5. If you give new orders, this nullifies their state UNLESS they are marked as rebellers by hgjbaio ('red'). So their state is neutral (Terrorist).

6. Your new order will then be processed so whatever state they were in previous except Rebeller('red') is null and void.

7. The order "ALL T's in VIP would be killed for not following previous order" is fallicious and relies on the fact that the prior order perists the state "¬FollowingOrder(Terrorist)" because if the reverse were true: the statement ¬(¬FollowingOrder(Terrorist)) would also apply and that any future disobeyment from the terrorists who followed your initial order would be considered not rebelling. This is why the prior order is nullified becuase the state is nullified upon the new order.

8. It holds that you would be freekilling if they were not red because the prior orders and thus their 'state' is neutral.

 

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As for your example, this would depend on the lead. Some leads are nice and allow a rebeller (minus the red marked rebellers) to return. This is disputable (ask Banban and them) but it's really up to the lead on that aspect.

 

Obviously, I'm just parsing what you're saying so really ask a CSS dL/Banban.

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LazaHorse Omniscient Member

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The fact that this is even a question right now just shows the stupidity of he logical extremes that this "New order means old orders are invalid" rule leads to. They hid... in their cell... and the ONLY REASON they couldn't be killed for it is a DIFFERENT rule that makes it so CTs can't go in their cell. In other words, they have no incentive whatsoever to follow orders because under one rule they can't be killed at the moment, and under a different rule they can't be killed for it later. So what then is the point of giving them orders at all? They can decide for themselves whether or not to do either of them, and can't be killed for whatever they choose. So then... it's not jailbreak anymore.

 

Or are we going to add another rule that VIP is special now and are exempt from orders till they leave their cell?

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xafizzle Elite Member III

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I don't understand any of your logic.

 

For those saying it's a new order so they can't be killed for disobeying a previous order, what about Ts who camp deagle vents? If a lead says "walk to the garage door of pool" when the rest of the Ts are in big cage, then by your logic, the one in deagle vents shouldn't be killed, even though clearly he should and always is.

 

And dev/null, I don't know why you didn't just go in there and kill the 3. If they're rebelling you can run in there and kill them all.

 

 

 

But forizzle, don't get so hung up on killing everyone. Freaking out about having to kill every single T who disobeys orders is how a lot of people (including myself) get auto tlisted.

3 terrorists isn't gonna make a difference between getting !lr or not if that's your goal.

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RedDevil6193 Omniscient Member

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I dont wanna read all them tldr.

 

Here is what i know.

 

If they didnt follow last order you are allowed to kill them. It is true that when new order is given past orders dont matter but that only applies to people who are following order.

 

So if no one in vip followed order then yes you can kill them as soon as cell doors open. But lets say there are 2 ts following order in vip and others are not, then let them go cause you may fk someone by mistake.

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