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Yes these are not sure-fire solutions, but i think its better than just throwing in the towel and giving up. It is pointless in not at least trying. No offense to you pongo but bringing pessimism to an optimistic thread discussing ways we can revive JB doesnt help anybody. Might as well just say nothing at all. Given Jailbreaks importance to current and older members and its place it has cemented itself in HG we should not give up so easily. I would also argue that we haven't tried such a big overhaul in the past. All we did was stick with what we've had for so long and asked people to play and hoped to revive JB. And yes it never worked. I believe a big overhaul like this is all much needed change.

Hey. So, we've seen a couple similar threads regarding the Jailbreak server and everyone has different ideas and changes they want to see get implemented.. but, for now we're focusing on getting a (more) stable pop on our TTT server. This doesn't mean jailbreak is gone for good, but we just want to give our most populated CSGO server a better chance at growing and maintaining its population. We don't have a lot of (active) people in our division who aren't already mods. At least half the population on TTT is usually comprised of HG members anyway. We don't want to split up our numbers just yet. There have been ideas thrown around in staff chat to make jailbreak a seasonal server because that's when jailbreak gets the most populated, but we're still monitoring the activity on TTT. Back to the topic: We've all seen similar threads to this before. People miss the jailbreak server. People remember the fond memories they had on one of the most popular servers in HG. People want to bring jailbreak back.. But, it's hard to convey how much effort is truly needed to really bring back jailbreak. The things that we need the most for a popular jailbreak is... people! Active players who play often! We need people to be on every day but we don't have that many people in this division to make sure there's a steady population everyday. If there weren't at least 12 people on the server, people would get discouraged and leave. There were so many times that mods or I have notified the slack CSGO mods channel and tried to get more people to get on but people are busy and can't get on everyday. A mod schedule was made so that the mods could designate specific times to get online and try to get more people to join but that didn't work out well. I remember mods like JarJar would pick specific times later in the day so that people could get on and help populate the server and some did join.. but the population didn't grow after that. JarJar also made a couple new versions of the JB map and, sadly, that still didn't help. We told our mods and other members to "not rebel as much" so that leads wouldn't get discouraged from leading.. that also didn't pan out. We were lax on rule breakers and made sure to give people many, many chances before kicking or banning them. We loosened up on playing sound clips and allowed music to have the n word again (obviously, inherently racist clips were still banned) and that still didn't help. What we truly need are people. Active people. People who want to lead. We need creative leads that don't do the same day over and over. TLDR; we need active players. I miss jailbreak as well, but if you don't want to put in the effort to try to populate the server even when it's not fun, please don't start blaming everyone else for not stepping up and doing it for you. (This is a general "you", not a specific person.)

The whole style of JB changed, it used to be about leading fun ass days and rebellers either succeeding or not. New age leads try to kill the Ts, not have fun. Also for me I could literally just ruin every single day by rebelling for obvious reasons. Your repetition argument makes no sense at all, the server was popped for like 4-5 years.

Reading through this thread it is great to see members step up to the plate and offer their expertise and show their willingness to work with leadership to make much needed changes. I think Finch hit the nail on the head, we need to get out of our current mindset that we can go back to how JB used to be (same map, same rules) and things will be fine. We need to change. Given how our past efforts have yielded no results, what is the harm in trying. Sometimes change can be good. If leadership reads this thread PLEASE listen to the community and their ideas. Dont give up on Jailbreak. If you guys are willing to try our ideas, i would be more than happy to offer my help in any way i can. Im sure that can be said for quite a few people in this community as well.

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For most leads it became all about getting to lr through tarps or first reaction last reaction. The repetitive argument confuses me because there is technically infinite things that can be done in JB obviously to an extent. I’ve seen good leads make even the most garbage days shine.

Why did the chicken cross the road. to be made into nuggets

I concur

Let me preface this post by saying JB is the reason I joined HG. I took a break after coming back last year due to how my wife was treated by the staff. I was saddened to come back only to see the JB server effectively dead. I guess it was a long time coming, suggestions on improvements and changes went unheeded and people aren't willing to do the same thing over and over again forever. That being said: That's bullshit. I'm a programmer for a living and offered my services multiple times to the community, I was ignored every time. If the current and past programmers wrote the plugin so that it was entirely dependent on the map, then I'm sorry but they are piss poor programmers. That means that every map fix, every map change, every map improvement could, and often would, break the plugin. If the JB plugin is truly so ingrained in one very specific map, this is an issue that has been stewing for far longer than any of us had imagined.

I've been happily married for 10 whole years. And ten out of thirty isn't half bad.

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