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Suggestion : Unban furrys & bronys from sprays


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This is the most outrageous rules I've seen added to the server. How are promoting diversity by banned furry and bronies?
I get that there are some downright disgusting furry and brony sprays but you also have people spraying hentai with everything showing yet that is somehow allowed. I find that disgusting so do a lot of other people I would assume and it's not banned. 

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I continue disapproving the fact that we allow hentai to be sprayed, as it's a form of pornography. We aren't a porn site, and we don't host porn servers. If people want porn, they can go on actual porn sites instead of here.

 

Just because I disapprove of hentai sprays does not mean I disapprove of anime sprays. I like anime and the anime art style, so I got no problems with anime sprays.

 

In my opinion, the reason why we disallow furry and brony sprays is because of the level of stigma held against both groups. A lot of people don't like furries or bronies inside and outside the Internet, and the terms "furry" and "brony" are usually associated with terms affiliated with sex, primarily because there are members from both groups who take the concept and oversexualize it in disgusting ways. These are probably the people who made the furry and brony fandoms look bad, when these communities are not how people think of them at all. I know Disney has furry characters in their own media -- they are the original Disney mascots (Goofy, Mickey, Daisy, Donald, Minnie -- they all count as furry), and they portray them in ways that are very acceptable. But this won't be the case for the actual furry and brony communities -- they are far too gone from this innocence.

The main reason people find "furry" and "brony" disgusting is probably because of its association with beastiality. Sexual intercourse with anthropomorphic animals? No matter how you dice it, that is beastiality in-context, and that is a sin, which could be why people are so hostile towards either group.

 

That isn't to say anime has forms of beastiality. The anime subculture involving "animal girls" and "animal boys" can be considered beastiality should acts of sex be involved, depending on how you see it. But it isn't beastiality 100% of the time, probably because the figures in this subculture are still human, and they aren't anthropomorphic animals. They still have human traits and qualities, and they aren't entirely animal in-nature.

 

Nontheless, in the past, we used to allow furry sprays on our server, but people got upset. When Blueberry used to play on our server, he would post furry sprays all the time, and people would get upset and complain. If we decide to allow furry sprays on the server, what happened in the past is going to repeat itself again today. There have been very few bans made against those who use hentai sprays, so I assume that's the leading reason why we keep them. If not, I'm not entirely sure.

I'm not against furries or bronies. I've talked with members from both groups, and they aren't as bad as people accuse them to be. But the bottom-line is this: we are not a place to allow others to impose their fetishes on to other people.

 

@McLovin or @Fume Knight could probably provide more input on this if you ask them. I really do want hentai off this server. Not anime, just the hentai. But that's up to both McLovin and Talbot.

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54 minutes ago, McLovin said:

Can we just stop convo here and let it be known that these rules are set.

 

We know the rules are set, but that doesn't make them right.

 

I don't have sprays on when I'm on the server, but if I did, I'd be as sick and tired as other players to see nothing but hentai, if that's what's actually happening. For players who do want to use sprays, in order for them to see their own sprays, they would have to enable them, and I don't think they want to go into every cade filled with nothing with porn sprays.

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37 minutes ago, Snowyamur said:

We know the rules are set, but that doesn't make them right.

 

I don't have sprays on when I'm on the server, but if I did, I'd be as sick and tired as other players to see nothing but hentai, if that's what's actually happening. For players who do want to use sprays, in order for them to see their own sprays, they would have to enable them, and I don't think they want to go into every cade filled with nothing with porn sprays.

I have sprays enabled. I enjoy seeing a lot of players sprays. Others not so much and I find them outright repulsive to view. ( destiny, McLovin, etc, etc ) Some players may say "disable sprays if you don't like what you see". This replaces 1 problem with another. I like it when I spray my image over in a corner to look over at it and see a cat. I love cats. I don't like looking over at that corner and instead, I'm seeing hentai with everything showing and all that's covering holes is a toothpick. The spray rules need a heavy revamp right now. I understand the furry and bronies not allowed, thanks for the context. I understand that. "I'd be as sick and tired as other players to see nothing but hentai, if that's what's actually happening." This is true. Enable sprays for 1 hour and you will see 80-90% of sprays are hentai. 

 

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Allow me, with my personal experiences list what the fuck I have seen, than compare it to the "normal" hentai that is a spray

a: fur all over the body

b: A gang bang censored by subway sandwiches

c: A furry with its cock and balls censored by a peice of sushi

d: too much fucking cum

e: similar sprays to above

I do agree with McLovin on this one. You guys, compared to other gold memebers, post some really vile shit, and it usually always teeters a line of "allowed" and "not allowed". As much as I love the addition of sprays, some people, in fact a lot of people took it too far, and they just so happened to be in the furry fandom. Now, not all furrys are like these individuals, or bronys, however, I, personally, am sick and tired of having to question whether to go through with a spray lock or not, due to the vague nature of our spray rules. I dont really support some of the hentai sprays either, as they can have the issues listed above, however it occurs in a way higher quantity among the 2 listed fandoms. If there was less vile sprays plastered on the wall next to where I need to look to shoot, than I would totally support Snowy and Cult, however, I am tired of seeing these sprays in my FOV at all times.

 

This does not leave hentai sprays out of the picture. There have been many with the above issue, however, with those, it never is on the fence, it is usually just straight up spray lockable. Sprays will most likely always be a point of discussion on this server, and if we want to be able to have all types of sprays, I only see one solution. The root of all these problems stems from one type of spray, be it anime, furry, or brony, and that it "SFW" porn sprays. I know that literally FUCKING EVERYONE feels the need to plaster anime tits and ass all over, but if we changed this one rule to mean, even just requiring it to be fully clothed, many, if not all of these problems will go away. I do not find the appeal in plaster "Big Booty Bitches" all over the wall, but rather to use it to make people laugh, rather than jizz in they pants. If we removed porn sprays, or at least required them to be fully clothed, the issue would be resolved. Other servers, on CSS, Gmod, TF2 do not have the problems listed above, due to the one change I suggested. The issue with my suggestion is that it is a small minority of people who don't feel the need to plaster titties and ass all over the place like a pre-pubescent teens room, but if we look at other servers, this is the one thing keeping them from the problems we have.

I do understand the enjoyment of plaster pornography all over the walls, however, does it make it a necessity? I beg to differ. Many people get along just fine with not seeing sprays, or posting memes over the nudity, like I do. The issue that I have with it is how it got old, fast. It is the same shtick - "Nearly naked anime chick with 3 different poses - Lying down, Hand down pants, or face looking as if they are having the best orgasm of their lives. There can be cum in there too, however, its the same over and over" With clothed sprays, or just meme sprays, it has a chance to be different, not allowing the excess of fur, cum, or censored cock and balls because there are no cock and balls to begin with in the source image. The action taken by McLovin and the DL team is only a step, not even forward, but to the side of removing this issue entirely. I will put it like this. If players on the server cared that fucking much about hentai, they wouldn't hop on to take a peek at the sprays, they would save it in a discrete "homework" folder in the depths of their harddrive. Some sprays, I get a good chuckle from, however, I despise seeing the hentai sprays. As a moderator, I can't turn sprays off, as its my job to monitor them, and as such, I put up with the listed problems, but I have been dealing with these spray problems for too long, and something needs to change. This current rule is not going to cut it, and many players WILL protest it, not only making it harder on your moderators, but on your DL's and your gold staff who check the server while the mods are not on.

We can not just change these rules like this. As much as there is a unanimous agreement that furry sprays, as well as brony sprays, can get vile, a drastic change like this will only divide the server. We even see it in this post, one of your moderators going against your rule set. It pains me to see the playerbase in this condition, and I want to see a compromise made, however, this change is not a compromise, but rather, some more fluff on the spray rule set. I only ask, even as a moderator, to take into consideration the above legislation I have recommended, maybe not a full ban, however, some ban to this factor will remove the possibility for these issues. Thank you for taking the time to read this post, and I hope you can use any of the recommendations to reach a compromise, however, it is a current stand still between the leadership and the playerbase.

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